Ugh, don't even get me started on so-called alpha males. Twenty bucks says he considers himself one but won't take the responsibility for calling himself one.
Do you read Finnish? cause this has been a MASSIVE ton of stupid-ass BS spouted in the FInnish blogosphere about "Lovwer level men" and how lack of sex is a masculinist issue and so on and so on and so on - including the polyamory angle. I have not followed it very closely but it is perfectly understandable that he'd want to get a more international opinion on the issue.
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Do you read Finnish? cause this has been a MASSIVE ton of stupid-ass BS spouted in the FInnish blogosphere about "Lovwer level men" and how lack of sex is a masculinist issue and so on and so on and so on - including the polyamory angle. I have not followed it very closely but it is perfectly understandable that he'd want to get a more international opinion on the issue.
I've known <lj-user=xuenay> for a good 11 years or so and he is about as far from sexist asshat as you can get. He is definitely not one of the people spoiuting the "But what about the lozer menz?" Bs.
i think i'm confused as to why he- as an "as far from sexist asshat as you can get" kinda guy- is even deigning to give such a prerogative this amount of mental weight in the first place. especially since you point out it is a topic and perspective held by masculinists.
people are at the far end of being invested in feminist discourse and ideology wouldn't consider this to be a legitimate exercise in mental gymnastics to begin with for any number of psychological, social, biological, financial, etc etc reasons, not just feminist ones. it wouldn't matter what the international opinion is because it's a flawed argument in the first place. the only reason one would need to get confirmation internationally would be to validate a personally held opinion, otherwise it's so absurd that you certainly don't need to validate that internationally since you don't subscribe to it so it doesn't matter what the other kids at school think.
Wow, my ex needs to learn Finnish so he can hang out with those dudes. He once wrote an entire manifesto about the cosmic injustice of his inability to get laid.
I'm guessing this argument is an extension from observation of what has occurred in some FLDS polygamist communities, where younger men are expelled from the community while older and more powerful men have multiple wives. So that is in fact a situation where non-monogamy (though not nearly polyamory) has resulted in a case of a small group of "alpha males" with a large number of women and all the other men out in the cold. Although I really can't see that happening in any sort of reality-based polyamory community, and it's completely antithetical to the notion that women, too, can have multiple partners, it's easy to see how someone who swallows evo psych like it's chocolate ice cream and doesn't know a lot about the various flavors of non-dyadic relationships could make that logical leap.
I suggest you check the links on his LJ to stuff like h is recent article on evo psych being a bunch of baslls, to paraphrase. He's far less of an eejit than you'd think
I really am on my last nerve with people talking about "alpha" humans. Humans are not pack animals like wolves. And wolves have complicated social structures that do not, in fact, boil down to "alpha male wolf is king!"
If, as suggested upthread, this gentleman is saying "What do you think of this theory" I would respond that the theory is a gigantic sack of crap.
Also, a community posting that requires extensive knowledge of the philosophical orientation of the person posting it to be understood "correctly" probably isn't the best thought out posting.
Starting to scan through that thread, until I got bored, it seems to be missing two important points:
Not everyone wants the same amount of time from a partner. One of the significant benefits one of my partners gets from me being poly is me spending less time with him, but still being okay with the relationship with him. He likes a lot of time for himself. There's nothing wrong with that, and I like a lot of time for myself too, but not to the same extent he does. So, he actively benefits from having less of me.
Not everyone should be in a relationship. An ideal system doesn't match everyone up. It allows relationship opportunities for the people able to handle being in relationships. But it's actively better if the "bottom tier" by some definitions isn't able to find anyone, if the people in the bottom are less desirable because they are abusive or otherwise dangerous to be with or simply are not yet/currently ready to be in a relationship. It is better to be single than to be with someone really bad. But it's even better to be with someone it works out well with (for most people). So, a system that forces the least desirable people to be single isn't necessarily a bad one, if the least desirable people are actually not desirable for very good reasons.